Comments on: Man shot Dead in Yerevan - + Innocent Passerby http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/ A blog about Armenia: business, politics, the future and good lavash Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:54:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5 by: PAtrik http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-68967 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:39:24 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-68967 Welcome to Armenia.... Welcome to Armenia….

]]> by: Angry Root http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-71440 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:04:31 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-71440 Now - don't you start again PAtrik!!! I don't want to indulge in comparisons with other countries, among which are the ever wished destinations for local Armenians, like Russia (4 people killed this year just for being Armenian) and USA (God's unhappy experiment of bringing all the lost soals and all worlds evil into one place and trying to build the Promised Land with them). Armenia is about as safe a country as it gets. I have goosebumps everytime I think of walking in Tbilisi, Georgia after 11PM!!! PS2: Whoever deletes this comment of mine please note - I mean it brother!!! I really love you :) Now - don’t you start again PAtrik!!! I don’t want to indulge in comparisons with other countries, among which are the ever wished destinations for local Armenians, like Russia (4 people killed this year just for being Armenian) and USA (God’s unhappy experiment of bringing all the lost soals and all worlds evil into one place and trying to build the Promised Land with them).

Armenia is about as safe a country as it gets. I have goosebumps everytime I think of walking in Tbilisi, Georgia after 11PM!!!

PS2: Whoever deletes this comment of mine please note - I mean it brother!!! I really love you :)

]]> by: Ruzanna http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-73427 Sun, 02 Jul 2006 16:32:12 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-73427 This kind of things happens often in US and Canada, so welcome to westernized world! This kind of things happens often in US and Canada, so welcome to westernized world!

]]> by: Onnik Krikorian http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-74258 Mon, 03 Jul 2006 18:37:30 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-74258 For those of you who say that this happens everywhere in the western world, yes, it does, EXCEPT I can't remember shootouts happening between the families of government officials, MPs and government connected individuals anywhere other than in very corrupt former Soviet republics and similar regions. http://aramanoogian.blogspot.com/2006/07/one-arrested-for-murder-of-son-of.html Criminal elements are the part of every State in the World, but in the CIS they ARE the State. I recommend you all read Vahan Ishkanyan's article on how Yerevan has been divided up between feuding clans if you really want to understand how the country is run. http://www.armenianow.com/?action=viewArticle&IID=1071&AID=1390&lng=eng For those of you who say that this happens everywhere in the western world, yes, it does, EXCEPT I can’t remember shootouts happening between the families of government officials, MPs and government connected individuals anywhere other than in very corrupt former Soviet republics and similar regions.

http://aramanoogian.blogspot.com/2006/07/one-arrested-for-murder-of-son-of.html

Criminal elements are the part of every State in the World, but in the CIS they ARE the State. I recommend you all read Vahan Ishkanyan’s article on how Yerevan has been divided up between feuding clans if you really want to understand how the country is run.

http://www.armenianow.com/?action=viewArticle&IID=1071&AID=1390&lng=eng

]]> by: PAtrik http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-74309 Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:06:05 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-74309 The thing that saddens one is that the Armenians( Hayastanchi) have done a better job then the Turks ever dreamed of. The Turks have killed 1,5 million Armenians. The Armenian government have forced 3 million of its own citizen to leave the country ? The Armenian government doesn’t have the respect by any foran country except Russia and Iran that’s a great cache? One being a Islamite country and the other well ! We been their slaves during the communist time and what did we get from that , well lost more territories. You see some shanty new construction built by the oligard Russian masters ….. and wee should be grateful. Their is no better place then Armenian for how, if you what to visit prostitutes and go to churches ? Working as a professor at the university , having to sustain your life by degrading yourself by expecting to take money from the students to pass them one. The Armenian mothers that don’t know what happened to their doters , that work as prostitutes’ in Dubai? Their is no better place then Armenia ? Are you drunk or taking some hashish from the Iranians that are coming to Yerevan… or I know some high quality Iranian opium , that’s god bought out from the Russians and drug down by muslim Iranians ? The thing that saddens one is that the Armenians( Hayastanchi) have done a better job then the Turks ever dreamed of. The Turks have killed 1,5 million Armenians. The Armenian government have forced 3 million of its own citizen to leave the country ? The Armenian government doesn’t have the respect by any foran country except Russia and Iran that’s a great cache? One being a Islamite country and the other well ! We been their slaves during the communist time and what did we get from that , well lost more territories. You see some shanty new construction built by the oligard Russian masters ….. and wee should be grateful. Their is no better place then Armenian for how, if you what to visit prostitutes and go to churches ? Working as a professor at the university , having to sustain your life by degrading yourself by expecting to take money from the students to pass them one. The Armenian mothers that don’t know what happened to their doters , that work as prostitutes’ in Dubai?

Their is no better place then Armenia ? Are you drunk or taking some hashish from the Iranians that are coming to Yerevan… or I know some high quality Iranian opium , that’s god bought out from the Russians and drug down by muslim Iranians ?

]]> by: Ruzanna http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-97260 Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:59:05 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-97260 I’m pretty sure that once Armenian government starts kissing up to Soros (u know what I mean!) all you people will be happy campers and brush everything under the carpet, as it’s happening in Georgia and Azerbaijan. As your beloved Katy use to brag how Azerbaijan was nice and everything’s going smoothly there, no corruption? No shooting? No gangsters? Why all the hypocrisy? I’m pretty sure that once Armenian government starts kissing up to Soros (u know what I mean!) all you people will be happy campers and brush everything under the carpet, as it’s happening in Georgia and Azerbaijan. As your beloved Katy use to brag how Azerbaijan was nice and everything’s going smoothly there, no corruption? No shooting? No gangsters?
Why all the hypocrisy?

]]> by: Ruzanna http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-97270 Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:22:39 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-97270 You can munch on these for a start http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4371159.stm http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0726serialshooter0726.html http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/Opinion/Editorials/2006/07/21/1695061.html http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060719/gun_registry_060719/20060719?hub=Canada http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2006/07/21/1696513.html If you want more just let me know You can munch on these for a start

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4371159.stm
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0726serialshooter0726.html
http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/Opinion/Editorials/2006/07/21/1695061.html
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060719/gun_registry_060719/20060719?hub=Canada
http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2006/07/21/1696513.html

If you want more just let me know

]]> by: Firefly http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-105249 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:03:42 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-105249 PATric, have you ever lived in some other place than Armenia to judge? I live in this sheety place called greater Washington, DC. Try just walk somewhere in ne, sw, se at anytime or nw after 10 pm, the situation so bad that dc government put curvew for those under 21. On every corner of every street in dc are homeless people begging for money to survive. Rightless man refuse to marry and have children because woman at any time can take your kid accuse in cruelty and divorce you. Their words are taken for granted by mommies court. They will strip you from your property in instance and make you pay enormous child and spousal support just because you were trying to work hard on several jobs to meet ends while your wife was f....g around. If you loose your job you still have to pay, b/c you have "ability to get job" and system doesn't care if you actually have not been able to find a job. If you don't have money they will put you in a jail for contempt of court. Armenia is the best place in the world! Land of freedom! Where some family values still continue to exist, and where interference of government in your family issues are minimal. PATric,

have you ever lived in some other place than Armenia to judge? I live in this sheety place called greater Washington, DC. Try just walk somewhere in ne, sw, se at anytime or nw after 10 pm, the situation so bad that dc government put curvew for those under 21. On every corner of every street in dc are homeless people begging for money to survive.
Rightless man refuse to marry and have children because woman at any time can take your kid accuse in cruelty and divorce you. Their words are taken for granted by mommies court. They will strip you from your property in instance and make you pay enormous child and spousal support just because you were trying to work hard on several jobs to meet ends while your wife was f….g around. If you loose your job you still have to pay, b/c you have “ability to get job” and system doesn’t care if you actually have not been able to find a job. If you don’t have money they will put you in a jail for contempt of court.

Armenia is the best place in the world! Land of freedom! Where some family values still continue to exist, and where interference of government in your family issues are minimal.

]]> by: firefly http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-106614 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:04:40 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-106614 This is a second time that my post was deleted. How about freedom of speech? Why we can't say anything to defend our own country? What was wrong in saying that Armenia is a Land of Freedom compare to the US? What was wrong in saying that the US is fowanized society where man reduced to submission? Or you just don't have arguments? This is a second time that my post was deleted. How about freedom of speech? Why we can’t say anything to defend our own country?

What was wrong in saying that Armenia is a Land of Freedom compare to the US? What was wrong in saying that the US is fowanized society where man reduced to submission? Or you just don’t have arguments?

]]> by: Tumanian, H http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-127364 Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:39:52 -0700 http://www.blogrel.com/2006/06/23/man-shot-dead-in-yerevan-innocent-passerby/#comment-127364 firefly, Your parallel between Armenia and the US is like comparing apples to oranges. To be sure, the US does have a host of *very* serious social problems. However, before you proclaim that Armenia is a Land of Freedom and Washington DC is a shitty place to live, I would suggest you carefully read The Bill of Rights and tell us whether every Armenian living in Armenia is afforded even half of those rights. I would particularly focus on the First, Fifth and Sixth Amendmens.I am pretty sure that in the US, every homeless person who doesn't even have pot to piss in, still enjoys those rights. While you think about that, think about the people that were evicted from their real estate in downtown Yerevan with little or no compensation and have no recourse, think of the journalists who are periodically beaten and arrested by the police for their professional activities, think of people in pretrial detention who are denied counsel and basic human rights and are detained for as long as the police see fit, think of the guy who got beaten to death in a bathroom by the Armenian secret service for a comment he made, think of the 100-200 conscripts that die of non-combat causes every year while performing the compulsory military service. Those are but a few things that I think about when I try to assess how free Armenia really is. After all, Freedom doesn't just mean being able to go to Armenia with a US passport once a year to have a good time. There is a lot more to it, my friend. firefly,
Your parallel between Armenia and the US is like comparing apples to oranges. To be sure, the US does have a host of *very* serious social problems. However, before you proclaim that Armenia is a Land of Freedom and Washington DC is a shitty place to live, I would suggest you carefully read The Bill of Rights and tell us whether every Armenian living in Armenia is afforded even half of those rights. I would particularly focus on the First, Fifth and Sixth Amendmens.I am pretty sure that in the US, every homeless person who doesn’t even have pot to piss in, still enjoys those rights.
While you think about that, think about the people that were evicted from their real estate in downtown Yerevan with little or no compensation and have no recourse, think of the journalists who are periodically beaten and arrested by the police for their professional activities, think of people in pretrial detention who are denied counsel and basic human rights and are detained for as long as the police see fit, think of the guy who got beaten to death in a bathroom by the Armenian secret service for a comment he made, think of the 100-200 conscripts that die of non-combat causes every year while performing the compulsory military service. Those are but a few things that I think about when I try to assess how free Armenia really is. After all, Freedom doesn’t just mean being able to go to Armenia with a US passport once a year to have a good time. There is a lot more to it, my friend.

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