Armenian Hockey Update

Filed under: Armenia, Sports, Turkey, Europe — Posted by Katy on January 10th

Okay, I’m sorry for saying that the Armenian Hockey Team sucks, but we can all agree that they have some work to do. All the hockey experts that I’ve spoken to say that a score of 6 is considered high and that anything above 10 is extremely rare, similar to soccer/football. Therefore their scoring is really really unusual.

Here are the latest scores from the tourney that they’re participating in:

21-2 loss to Bulgaria
47-1 loss to Lithuania
28-3 loss to Turkey

I think that scoring 3 goals on Turkey is impressive. I wonder how the game went? Did people protest? Did the Armenian players play with more vigor?

I wish I could find out more about all of this!

This blog has more details of the games. I don’t understand hockey well enough to know what most of the terms he uses are. This blog has some details too.

63 Comments »

  1. Well, I blog about hockey and noticed the story about the Armenian team. I am half Armenian (my mother was Stepanian) and I thought it would be neat to mention them.
    I am glad you picked it up and I am glad I found this website thru technorati.

    Comment by Paul — 1/11/2006 @ 12:38 am

  2. Katy, the thing is that it has nothing to do with the hockey team “sucking,” as you put it, or not. I think we all are aware that Armenia is not your historically “hockey-sensitive,” for lack of a better term, country. And as I have said elsewhere, so I say here, that the fact that there are grown up Armenian men skating gives me the chills, of course meaning it as a joke, and the chuckles. I had and still don’t harbor ill feelings towards you personally as some of my rhetoric may have, or indeed has been construed, but as an Armenian who has seen his share of victimization by non Armenians and who has a number of close friends that barely escaped the Baku pogroms of 1989, I bring to bear a certain interpretive framework on my reading of every and any text regarding Armenians everywhere. I love my country and its hardworking people, not the least because of our rich traditions and our history of suffering, but I do not love my country and the people with what can be characterized as a blind love. I see them black spots as clearly as I see the bright ones, OK the bright ones perhaps more often, but who does not have biases, I who am among the least of men certainly do. This is all to say that when you say certain things on Blogrel, which we all agree is a great news stop for the “outside” Armenians, on certain points, (the time will not permit me to list them), you come across as patronizing, ney insulting, as if your Armenian readership needs to be taught the fundamentals of life. This of course can be the figment of my imagination, but since I am not the only one to note it, it can be attributed either to mass hypnosis, (highly unlikely), or to sheer carelessness in your choice of words, or to intentionality - the latter of the three perceived by this reader/writer, and by many others, as the real culprit. Of course I am not trying to muzzle your speech, you can speak your mind as you wish, but if your intent is not to insult the Armenian ethnos, whether they be through uncalled for comments, derisions, and insensitive jokes then I think you need to be more careful and sensitive in your comments/observations that no other historically ill treated minority with sensitivities of their own would tolerate.

    Comment by Artyom — 1/11/2006 @ 9:20 am

  3. I appreciate your articulating your position, but as I’ve said before, if you don’t like what is written here, you don’t have to read it.

    If you were familiar with my background at all, I think that you would be aware that I am extremely concerned with the fate of the Armenian nation but that I am also very practical.

    It is PRACTICAL to say tha the Armenian hockey team is doing very poorly - so poorly in fact that they are making world records - and talking about it is fine. It isn’t insulting to the Armenian nation. It is just a fact.

    I could say, on the same note, that a lot of American sports teams are poor. I don’t feel that this is anti-American. (Yes, I know that it is different.)

    Anyway, if you want to read this site, read it. If you don’t, don’t. If you want to discuss things with me, it isn’t difficult to find my e-mail address.

    Trust me, after nearly 10 years of being involved in Armenian affairs, I am used to people accusing me of being anti-Armenian or a spy or whatnot. I know that I am not, and the people whom I care about certainly know that I am not, and that’s all that really matter to me.

    Comment by Katy — 1/11/2006 @ 9:59 am

  4. Kathy,

    I am 5-07. I live in DC area. Every weekend I play basketball with African American guys. If I play one on one, then anyone in the team will kick my ass. However, those guys love to have me in the team because I love this game, play hard every game and don’t avoid contacts with much bigger guys. If you understand anything in the sport then you would know that as long as the team give ITS every effort it is never SUCKS no matter how much the score is. You havn’t seen the game, therefore you don’t have a right to treat those players with disrespect.
    It is your right to cheer for Turkish team and tell other people not to read your blog. That’s fine. However, calling this blog an Armenian blog is ingenuine and misleading. You might be engaged in Armenian affairs for the last 10 years, but your comments on this blog show that you simply don’t feel for us, and quite frankly don’t respect us because in the deep of your soil you think that you are just better than we are. So why not to call this blog ANOTHER AMERICAN BLOG ABOUT CAUCASIAN AFFAIRS.

    Comment by fiefly — 1/11/2006 @ 5:41 pm

  5. Hey - they have some of the biggest losses in hockey history, that means that’s they are not very good.

    And I didn’t cheer for the Turkish team.

    Comment by Katy — 1/11/2006 @ 7:10 pm

  6. And more importantly, to anyone, if you really don’t like something about this blog, why not write me an e-mail and ask me about it? Not only is it more polite, it is probably more likely to make a difference.

    Comment by Katy — 1/11/2006 @ 7:21 pm

  7. Katy,

    If you think that we are not pollite, then you could try to go to one of those websites of those small football nations like Monaco, Luxemburg, San-Marino and Lichtenstein and after the regular loss of their national team tell their fans that their team suks, wait ten minutes and then read what educated Europeans think about you and your ancestors. People of small nations think differently. Something that sucks for you, is a great achievement for them, and don’t bring examples of the US teams. If the US basketball team doesn’t win Olimpics then this team sucks, but for Angola making in qualifying it is a great achievement. Hope that you feel difference.

    As far as a hockey is concerned it was a game between European hockey players of Turkish decent and Russian hockey players of Armenian decent. There is no Turkish or Armenian hockey leage, even non professional. This sport does not exist in both countries, except for dummy federations supported by Olimpic Committees of both countries.

    Finally, since you put something in public domain, then expect comments about the topic from the public. I am personally not going to engage in private converstations regarding my preferences. I prefer that people know my take on the issue and speak their mind.This is your blog so you free to publish anything and you free to block comments from anyone for any reason or for no reason at all.

    Comment by firefly — 1/11/2006 @ 9:39 pm

  8. Firefly,

    When you are playing a basketball in your backyard you are not representing Armenia. Whereas if you are a team that represents a country, they should first prepare for tournaments before actually participating in them. They don’t have to be the best, but also they shouldn’t be out there beating all the worst records in the history of hokey. They are just embarrassing the country. If they have just discovered the game of hokey and love it, why not prepare for a couple of years before participating in major tournaments… That’s how it works in sport. If you are that bad, you just withdraw, go back and continue practicing.

    Comment by Nanul — 1/11/2006 @ 10:40 pm

  9. Nanul,

    1. I don’t wanna explain again why we are not in the position to judge those players unless we see the games.
    2. Do you think that soccer players of Monako, Luxemburg, San-Marino, Lixtenstein embarass their countries every time they loose big?
    3. These players didn’t anything wrong? Didn’t commit anything inappropriate? Didn’t commit a crime? Why they have to be embarrassed for?

    Comment by firefly — 1/12/2006 @ 4:21 pm

  10. The so-called Armenian hockey team not only SUCKS, but is also a disgrace for the entire nation. It must be strictly banned for playing anywhere outside Armenia. There is just no other way of preventing articles likes this: http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg133872.html

    Note to online nationalists: its author is Armenian. Also, any comparison with San Marino or Luxemburg is wrong. Their soccer teams don’t lose wich such eccentric scores and are not made fun of by Western media. Actually they occasionally upset European soccer powers.

    Comment by H. Hovsepian — 1/12/2006 @ 4:37 pm

  11. Hovsepyan,

    1. Don’t call people names. You are more nationalist than anyone here if you are going to make big deal out of it.
    2. What a great Article, who reads that and who cares.
    3. Comparison is absolutellety correct! Just go and try to count how many decades passed since those teams become able to have some occasional draws with the mediocre European teams, and how many loosing records they beat before they have been able to do that.
    4. Turks are not leaders in ice hockey either, but I don’t hear Turkish voices opposing their team playing hockey because they are disgrace for 70 million Turks.

    So, now go and figure who is nationalist here and who make beag deal out of nothing.

    Comment by firefly — 1/12/2006 @ 8:22 pm

  12. I bet if you told a bunch of Turkish people how their hockey team is playing, they’d say that they are bad too.

    Comment by Katy — 1/12/2006 @ 9:27 pm

  13. nobody says that Armenia’s hockey team is playing well, it’s the use of words that’s so annoying…

    Katy, to get the feeling of what some of us got from your blogs on hockey, try comprehending this:

    “Vermont is a boring, maple-syrup-leaking hell, and it SUKS!!!”

    doesnt sound that good, does it?! While I’m more than sure that you do agree that VT is not the most fun place to be, or be looking for a job for that matter. (maybe it’s even the most boring state, that is after Kansas of course ;) .

    Comment by v — 1/12/2006 @ 9:58 pm

  14. Well, I don’t live in Vermont anymore, but I liked it there. If you think it sucks and can give reasons for it, that’s okay.

    I think that there are excellent reason to say that the Armenian hockey team isn’t good. Maybe that they have the worst scoring games in history is the best reason.

    And, for the record, Vermont has problems — there aren’t enough jobs, the cost of living is too high for the average wages, and it isn’t diverse enough. I’ve lived in more boring places though.

    Now I live in London and California — both are too expensive, both have too much pollution, both have problems.

    It is GOOD to discuss problems with things. It is also good to discuss solutions.

    If Vermont had less permit restrictions on businesses, there would be more jobs. If London and California would have less emissions, there’d be less pollution.

    How about some solutions for the Armenian hockey team?

    Comment by Katy — 1/12/2006 @ 10:26 pm

  15. reasons or no reasons…
    If we are discussing the ways to improve the national team’s performance, then lets do just that, explore how a team may be brought to perform better than in it’s debut, and thus lets call the blog “how to improve hockey in Armenia” and start it with the sentence “to be playing is good, but playing good is better…”, and not just put tags on things in a manner that can be taken offensively.

    Yes, they did lose with ridicilous scores. But the way I undersatnd sports, while the results are something to fight for, the participation is more important. I am sure that if there are more or less good players in the armenian team, they did get noticed by managers, club owners… people in the hockey business. Which is definatelly good for their prospective careers.
    And for everyone else on the team, I think it was an experience of playing against different styles and schools of hockey, going through all reallities of the game, and not just spending their entire lives on the practice rink. Their game will go up with time and experience (it has nowehere else to go), but everyone has to start from somewhere.

    Not having a real national league has the consequence of placing you in a vacuum, where you cant see or feel the reality of the game, and no matter what they say, team sports are not just about technical mastery, you have to be in the game to learn…

    And if doing nothing else, the teams’ participation in these matches definatelly sparkled some interest, and maybe has paved the way for creating enough interest to motivate the establishment of a national league. Compare how many people knew that one can find a hockey match to go see in Armenia before these matches and after them!

    As to VT, while there are definatelly some issues and some great things about the state (Maple syrup, Mount Snow, Lake Champlain and SoVerNet being among them… though I’ve recently heard the company is being sold), I am in no position to publically judge and/or put tags on Vermont. And the mentioning of the sate in the previous comment was for an illustration point only.

    Comment by v — 1/13/2006 @ 2:48 am

  16. If you lose 0-55 or 10-133, there is no way you can ever learn to play professional hockey. All you can achieve is to put your nation to shame and earn a place in the Guinness book. The self-styled Armenian hockey players are lucky because very few people in Armenia are aware of their exploits. I personally haven’t seen any related reports in the local press. Fans here (not in the Diaspora) feel angry and humiliated whenever the Armenian soccer team is beaten 3-0 or 4-0 by the likes of Germany and Spain. So imagine how they will react if they find out about the disgraceful hockey scores. I guess Katy’s comments about the Armenian “hockey team” would then sound like a compliment compared to what people here say.

    Comment by H. Hovsepian — 1/13/2006 @ 10:00 pm

  17. Take off the panties people.

    Katy said it right when she said our hockey team sucks. Big frickin’ deal!!! Yeah, they suck! So do other teams in other sports if they get defeated so badly. Instead of crying about her saying that the Armenian hockey team sucks, why don’t all you crybabies get together, raise some money, and send it to the hockey team so they could hire better coaches and equipment for the team so they won’t suck.

    Open your Armenian minds and accept the fact that we Armenians are not “holier than thou.” We have good and bad just like any other people. Get used to it.

    AD out!

    P.S. I left a box of Kleenex for your guys in case you can’t stop crying.

    Comment by AD — 1/16/2006 @ 10:55 pm

  18. Hovsepyan,

    1. 10-130 was overall goal differencial
    2. You live on another planet if you think that anyone in Armenia feeled humiliated after the loss to Germany 0:4. It was actually good game, where we were able to hold score untill 72 minute. So, there is nothing to feel humiliated about.
    3. Soccer in Armenia has long traditions, and expectations are much higher, while a few Armenians can even skate.
    4. Normal fans react rationally. They assess strenght of the team based on objective factors and adjust the expectations accordingly. I am soccer and hockey fan for 30 years, I can’t expect wins from the teams that get no talants. But, I expect a hard work from them to establish foundation and popularise the game in the country.
    5. Only fanatic nationalists could ask to shut down the team, because of its big losses. This is totalitarian thinking, if we can’t win we are not gonna play. Even Russians whose baseball and football (american) teams loose big don’t trow that kind of comments.
    6. Finally, people are just outraged by the way Katy present the news. I honestly beleive, that if she says the half of staff that she says about Armenians about African Americans or Latino she will be grilled alive by her liberal friends.

    Comment by firefly — 1/17/2006 @ 8:21 pm

  19. Half of the things that I say about Armenians are offensive?

    Give me a break.

    Comment by Katy — 1/17/2006 @ 8:51 pm

  20. AD,

    “Open your Armenian minds and accept the fact that we Armenians are not “holier than thou.” We have good and bad just like any other people. Get used to it.”

    Good advise,

    may be you start from yourself and stop crying about the result, accept that we are not the best ice-hockey team and we gonna loose hockey games for the years to come. So you better keep that Kleenex box for yourself. Especially if you seem to be kinda person that is ready to take off panties after every loss.

    Comment by firefly — 1/17/2006 @ 9:11 pm

  21. Katy,

    I am not the only one here, who think that.
    See Infra.

    Comment by firefly — 1/17/2006 @ 9:15 pm

  22. Well, don’t read Blogrel then.

    Comment by Katy — 1/17/2006 @ 11:38 pm

  23. That is something !!! I don’t think that you or anyone is in the position to tell people what they can or cannot read or comment on in the internet.
    See infra, post 7, paragraph 3
    However, I will promise to do that if you stop calling your blog Armenian. I don’t think we need Armenian version of “Al Hurra”

    P.S. Based on the number of comments on this site you can tell that there are not many of people reading this project anyway.

    Comment by firefly — 1/18/2006 @ 1:34 am

  24. It wasn’t an order, it was a suggestion. I don’t like baseball, so I don’t read baseball blogs.

    Comment by Katy — 1/18/2006 @ 2:23 am

  25. Firefly, this “Especially if you seem to be kinda person that is ready to take off panties after every loss.” violates the comment rules. Please refrain from such sexual insults.

    Comment by Katy — 1/18/2006 @ 2:27 am

  26. Sorry about that.
    However, this was an excerpt from the post 17, see paragraph 1. If it was tolerated in the first place then it looks like selective punishment.

    Comment by firefly — 1/18/2006 @ 2:46 am

  27. Sorry, I didn’t see that. Still catching up from when I was in Mexico.

    AD, please watch it too.

    Comment by Katy — 1/18/2006 @ 3:08 am

  28. FIREFLY:

    I don’t have a problem accepting the fact that the Armenian Hockey Team S-U-C-K-S! If you ready my post carefully, you’d pick that up.

    Also, dude, it wouldn’t hurt if you ran a spell check and grammar check before you actually posted your comments. Just some advice.

    PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!

    Comment by AD — 1/19/2006 @ 10:26 am

  29. ready=read hehe, typed too FAST!!!

    AD OUT!

    Comment by AD — 1/19/2006 @ 10:28 am

  30. I want to find out how to play for them. I may be Ameerican, but my fathers side is from Armenia. I can’t think of anything better to do this April. I can even skate backwards, which seems like a skill they could use at this point.

    Barrnig that, I want to find out how to get an Armenian National team jersey. At the very least, it would throw some useful cash their way.

    Comment by james — 1/22/2006 @ 9:19 pm

  31. Also, I just found this page, so this could explain some of the hockey difficulties face in Armenia. Sorry for the fafct you have to cut and paste, but put that link in your browser.

    http://www.tampere.fi/jaakiekkomuseo/emaailma_arm.htm

    This is sadly more informative about Armenian hockey than the Ice Hockey Armenia site is.

    Comment by James — 1/22/2006 @ 9:23 pm

  32. I have been a die hard hockey fan since I can remember, I have been playing hockey for over 17 years, and I have been a Referee for the last nine years. I have seen many one-sided games and never have I seen any team get spanked like these poor fellas.

    The only people that should be blamed for the losses are the people who put this team together. I have seen some of these guys play and I must say, out of all the Armenians that I have seen play, most of them belong somewhere near the bottom.

    Just in the Los Angeles area (a so called non-hockey city) there are 5 Armenian teams playing in adult leagues in differnt rinks w/in the city, this is not including the growing number of kids playing in 18-and-under leagues. From what I see the future looks a lot brighter for the Armenian National Hockey team. I have heard that the Armenians have put a new team together, hopefully they will be a lot more competitive.

    Comment by A.D. — 2/3/2006 @ 11:30 am

  33. AD,

    I may be a dude for someone, but definitely not for you. Go back and read your blog yourself. Did you really expect something else in response, after starting your post with the personal insult to readers? Have you ever heard about freedom of speech? It includes freedom not to run spellcheck. Nobody forces you to read what I wrote.

    Comment by Firefly — 2/3/2006 @ 7:04 pm

  34. true, armenian hockey is bad, sounds like there are lots of organization problems that need to be sorted out. the federation running it is probably incompetent, and the facilities are probably horrible. armenia has had hockey in the small villages at least since the 70’s, on outdoor rinks, i know vardenis town had one. but not much has probably changed since then. as for armenian players in LA. that has nothing to with armenia. you need to be a citizen of armenia to play, not just have the last name. no point in representing a country you refuse to live in.

    Comment by kayczak — 2/9/2006 @ 11:47 am

  35. This a link about Micah Aivazoff, formerly Detroit Red Wings Player, who though reached his 100 point mark in WHL and then continued to play in Germany.
    Let’s find him.
    http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/SearchPlayer.jsp?player=10009

    Comment by Mark — 2/10/2006 @ 2:35 pm

  36. I think this year will be an eye opener for all of you following armenian hockey…..excpect a huge improvment and some young talent

    Comment by petsya — 4/1/2006 @ 4:39 pm

  37. let’s just leave the bull..it talk and let the games and performances speak for themselves

    Comment by petsya — 4/1/2006 @ 4:43 pm

  38. These are for ALL THOSE SUCKERS who a year ago where bitching here about our hockey team, for all those LOOSERS who were ready to run after sight of first losses

    ARMENIAN ICE HOCKEY TEAM WON ITS FIRST OFFICIAL GAME AT THE QUALIFYING ROUND OF WORLD ICE HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP
    IRELAND - ARMENIA 0:6

    Memorise these names suckers

    GHAZANCHYAN John
    APELYAN Karpis
    KHACHATRYAN Andranik
    SARGSYAN Vahram
    KHACHATRYAN Petros

    MARKOSYAN Hovnan
    SIMONYAN Aram
    PARSAMYAN Gevork
    BALYAN Manuk
    KANDAKHARYAN Gevork

    MAZMANYAN Sargis
    BLIKYAN Karapet
    VARDANYAN Aram
    BUBUSHYAN Armen
    ABRAHAMYAN Aram

    KAJBEROUNI Raffi
    ELMAZYAN Joe
    YEGHYAYAN Simon

    goalies
    BALUYAN Harutyun
    GHAZARYAN Lavik

    Comment by Firefly — 4/26/2006 @ 5:37 pm

  39. I understand your frustration over the loss of Armenia Hocky Team last year. I did not like it either. But that is old news. I hope you are fair enough to mention the great job our team did this year in Iceland. They have come a long way. In a very short three years they are rubbing elbowes with teams that have had years and t=years of Int’l competion experience. We all should (You are included in this All as well!!!)congratulate our young players and be more supportive. Next year will be better.

    Comment by Heros K — 4/30/2006 @ 3:06 am

  40. Firefly said; “As far as a hockey is concerned it was a game between European hockey players of Turkish decent and Russian hockey players of Armenian decent. There is no Turkish or Armenian hockey leage, even non professional. This sport does not exist in both countries, except for dummy federations supported by Olimpic Committees of both countries.”

    I want to correcet these words, fist of all i don’t know if there is a Armenian hockey leage But since 19 years existing a ice hockey leage in Turkey even a professional leage and most of the best Turkish hockey players are living and playing in Canada or in United States.

    Comment by Alper — 5/8/2006 @ 7:16 am

  41. For those of you that have been running the Armenian Hockey Teams name into the ground, guess again. You probably haven’t heard that they ranked 3rd and were robbed of 2nd place by the referees against the Iceland game. You can watch the games at the following site…

    http://www.iiha.org/ice_hockey/video_archive/2006_iihf_wc_iceland/games/

    Response to comments…

    Comment #10 - H. Hovsepyan - Don’t hate buddy. The guys have a medal on their chest, what do you have?

    comment #30 - James - Sorry to tell you man, but if you watch the game, even the worst skater on the Armenian National Team can skate circles around you.

    Comment #34 - kayczak - You don’t have to live in Armenia to be a true Armenian. Also, instead of talking sh.. about them, you should thank them for sending all those donations to Armenia. But, Go email the president of the Armenian National Team and ask him how Armenian the guys were. He’ll tell you. He’ll probably even tell you that they were more Armenian then you are for playing with injuries. I saw, I watched every game live on the internet. These guys suffered dislocated shoulders, torn ligaments, stitched up faces, cuts that required stitches but were just covered with bandaged, and still got on the ice and gave it all they got. Nothing got in the way. These boys demonstrated so much heart and courage, that no one will ever understand. And if they didn’t care, they’d go become a citizen of a country that would pay them to play. These guys spent money out of their own pockets just to represent you and all Armenians around the world in Iceland. No one even stepped in to sponsor them. So Keep the sh.. talking to yourself and praise them for their hard work and effort.

    And to you Firefly, Heros K., and all the people that have been supporting the team emotionally on sites like these along with me, it’s thanks to you that the team was motivated to win and shut all the mouths of people degrading them.

    I’ll bet anyone that Team Armenia will rank in the top 2 in 2007, and will move up to play in the higher level in 2008!

    - Cheers

    Comment by HyeClass — 5/26/2006 @ 10:25 am

  42. kayczak,

    By the way, for anyone that understands sports, knows its not about what’s written on the back of the jersey. It’s about what’s written on the front! And if someone is not willing to represent what’s on the front, then they will never wear that Jersey.

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  52. Please review scores and stats off IIHF.com from this year’s tournament. Regardless of the speculation (mainly coming from the Irish, who are peeved because they thought they had a chance for a metal) Armenia did gr8. Support you team!!!!
    Through thick and thin, and they will not disappoint you in the end.
    Look forward to better results from Armenian Hockey in the years to come.

    Comment by Andranik — 6/1/2006 @ 12:06 pm

  53. I thak all of the supporterd for our Armnian National Team. As an Armenian I cant say how proud I am to know that our Nation and our boys won a medal in a team sport for the first time in any sport that Armenia has participated in. JOB WELL DONE Boys.
    And to all the haters, find a new hobby. TEAM ARMENIA looks good and I think they will get the GOLD MEDAL NEXT YEAR.

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    www.narcononmiracles.org

    Comment by Chasing the Dream — 7/19/2006 @ 11:06 am

  58. Hello everybody, first and foremost i would like to inform whom ever reads this that the events which are mentioned are actual events which should be pleasing to the ear if read with an open heart and mind.The topic which I would like to comment on has to do with how hockey should be played by all races armenian,turkish,chinese,brazilan and so on, its all for the love of the game, doesnt matter which countrys are playing against each other, the ice rink is, and should be a place where the mind is free of politics and free of all the negativity our world consumes. A great example of how hockey can break tension and bring different ethnic backrounds together was shown at the 2004 division 3 ice hockey championships in Iceland. The armenian hockey club showed up to the tournament eager and full of good spirits, willing to compete, knowing that their team was lacking experience,talent,and the basic fundamentals of hockey. But what the armenians had was desire and that never give up energy to put on a show for their fans, they were proud to play for their country just like all the other teams in that tournament.However from past personal experinces from my university days, I have found that my armenian friends when it came down to game day dwell on the past and that every topic has somewhat to do with other people or nations picking on them. A friend of mine was present in iclenad in 2004 when iclenad beet armenia 22 nothing on the scoreboard and physically beat them on the ice, injury some of their players. my friend, who has an Armenian backround, was upset at this and didnt undertsand how they could injur players who had trouble standing on their skates, let alone skating. however the final game was agianst turkey, and alot of the turkish players had a fair share of individual points, and could have easily scored 20 or 30 goals against the armenian side, and by doing this they would have won alot of individual trophys such as, the top scorer, most assists, and most goals. However the Turkish side did not rack up the score and they decided to keep the score at under ten goals. and only played their third and forth line to make the game fair. My friend was amazed at the sportsmenship that was present at that game, and throughout the tournament by both the armenian and turkish club. both sides were cheering for one another at eachothers games. The moral of these ice hockey championships is to bring individuals together to enjoy an amazing game that brings countrys together, such as russsia and the united states , and even turkey and Armenia, which have lived together for hundreds of years as brothers and sisters.

    Comment by johnny — 9/4/2006 @ 3:36 am

  59. To the many people above:

    I’ve been following for sometime now.
    90% of what that girl katy posts here is not worth listening to. Just ignore.

    Comment by nvrelk — 10/13/2006 @ 6:09 pm

  60. Just curious if anyone here can answer questions for me about the Armenian National Hockey Team. I’m an international hockey fan and am curious about their situation.

    Is anyone here involved with the team in any way that I could get a hold of? This would be greatly appreciated if possible. Armenian hockey contacts are hard to come by. Anyway, does anyone know how the Armenian team improved so much in one year? Did the Armenian Federation recruit foreigners for the team or were the previous teams just made up of secondary Armenian players?

    Does anyone have any information on a Uratu Hockey Club? Is this club Armenian based or is it a foreign club with Armenian heritage? I’m curious because apparently that club produces most of the talent on the Armenian national team roster.

    Does anyone know why HC Uratu pulled out of the Continental Cup this year at the last second? Was it problems with the federation or just simply financial issues?

    Thanks to anyone who can answer these questions. I hope I can get into contact with someone about Armenian hockey.

    Comment by helix — 1/22/2007 @ 6:09 am

  61. You have to go deeper then the surface. Prior to 2006, Team Armenia was nothing but a political joke. All the players were children or friends of government officials. This allowed them to skip on their military duty while better armenian hockey players were either in the army or pushed aside. In 2005 When the head of the aihf said there will be changes, he meant it. From that day, hockey has become serious in Armenia. None of us will ever know the details of the war between the aihf and the armenian hierarchy for the aihf to get the players they want. All I hear is clueless people making accusations from several continents away because their precious little country lost out on a medal. You can keep your medals. All these Armenian kids want to do is play hockey for Armenia.

    Comment by varooj semerjian — 4/8/2007 @ 2:24 am

  62. The Officially Licensed Armenian Ice Hockey Team Jerseys are now available. Home and Away Jerseys sizes s-XXXL. Tshirts also available.
    Show Your Support for the Armenian Team.
    Armenia is to play in Luxembourg March 31-April 4, 2008 for the World Championships. Armenians From Europe are being encouraged to come and show their support.
    email me for for information.
    armenianhockeyusa@yahoo.com

    Comment by David Baboorian — 10/3/2007 @ 6:04 pm

  63. MY COUSIN’S ON THAT TEAM… LAVIK … GOALIE… EVEN THO THEY AREN’T SOO GOOD… ITS OK… I HAVE FAITH… HYEKAKAN FOREVER ONE LOVE… GO HYEASTAN!!!!!

    Comment by Karen Kazaryan — 10/7/2007 @ 2:45 am

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