News on Armenia - no direct English-language source?
I sometimes run a Google-News search on Armenia, and noticed that with exception of Azg, there are no other direct hits on links with news reports from any Armenian media. Moreover, there are plenty of hits on Russian (Tass, Ria-Novosti), Turkish, and Azeri English-language sources (the last two mostly propaganda and direct lies). Turkish and Azeri sources, in particular, account for at least 20% of reports mentioning Armenia (if you exclude marginal references, at least 50%).
There are obviously English-language Armenian media sources, like Groong, Arminfo, Arka, Yerkir, etc, but they never make it to Google-news. Any idea why it works that way? It may be simple search engine “optimization” and placement. This seems to be working against Armenia, given Google’s popularity and utility.
So curious that you would post this. I have been wondering about this for the past couple of months and I am yet unable to give any sort of answer. One newsite I have seen more and more lately is “Armeniandiaspora.com”. All that azeri/turkish propoganda has really been pissing me off lately.
Comment by Tigran — 2/22/2005 @ 2:30 am
Please mail your ideas for news sources to source-suggestions@google.com. While we can’t guarantee that we will add all sources that are recommended, we will review all the suggestions we receive.
Comment by Katy — 2/22/2005 @ 2:37 am
I’m with Katy on this one. It’s almost certainly a matter of the Armenian media not being known by the Yahoo / Google search engine. I’d also add that most of the Armenian news is varied and is sometimes business related (mostly positive), sports (impartial), politics (from a variety of sources including Russian). My only problem, perhaps, is that the Azeri media reporting on Armenia comes up from time to time. Actually, this isn’t a problem if there are also Armenian sources. Problem is that the number of high quality internet-based news sources from Armenia seem to be less than that from Azerbaijan and Georgia. Incidentally, I don’t mean in terms of content or journalism — I mean simply in terms of the English used.
Certainly, however, there is no conspiracy at work here. It’s a matter of few local media outlets understanding the importance of and being able to communicate in a language acceptable to most foreign audiences. Unfortunately, A1 Plus is too poorly translated and too frequent in terms of content, Noyan Tapan is subscription based, PanArmenian.net forgets itself sometimes and disseminates propaganda etc. Hetq Online and ArmeniaNow.com are too specific in the type of articles they publich ie. little interest in some cases to foreign readers and / or largely feature or investigative pieces rather than news.
Perhaps the two sources that could meet international standards would be RFE/RL’s Armenia Service and ArmenPress.
Cheers,
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/22/2005 @ 3:44 am
BTW: the other thing is that we have no quality newspapers here and even online publications such as Hetq Online and ArmeniaNow.com fail to fall into that category.
Probably, the best newspaper that could be in Armenia would be a combination of RFE/RL’s Armenia Service (news), ArmeniaNow.com (feature articles) and Hetq Online (Investigative pieces). Even so, we’d need better sports and culture coverage on top of that.
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/22/2005 @ 3:52 am
Let’s make a list of URLs and all mail them to google news.
www.armenpress.am
www.armenialiberty.org
?
Comment by Katy — 2/22/2005 @ 5:22 am
good suggestions. The Azeri/Turkish sources I mention are actually not newspapers either, they are either set up by Turkish government to disseminate anti-Armenian propaganda in view of upcoming 90th anniversary of the Genocide (”Journal of Turkish Weekly”), or Baku-based English language online newspapers, like Azernews.com or bakutoday.net. Lately, they seem to coordinate their anti-Armenian stories - it appears in both sources to resonate. The English in Baku-based publications is not much better than A1+’s.
So, there’s no reason why HETQ and Armenianow.com should be excluded. Their journalism is good enough, and the stories they cover are relevant.
Re Panarmenian and propaganda, they do have good foreign policy analysis from time to time.
I suspect one reason for the problem above is insufficient outbound traffic from Armenia due to perennial problems with Armentel etc.
As far as English-language news sites are concerned, I would also add these:
http://www.yerkir.am/eng
http://www.arminfo.am/news.htm
Comment by Hovakim — 2/22/2005 @ 7:09 am
Talking of ArmenTel, ouch! I had my phone bill today since the 4,800 drams unlimited local calls option was withdrawn. 20,000 drams and I’ve actually not been using the Internet as much as I normally would so, once again, we see this monopoly restrict internet use in Armenia. First, it was overly high charges for ISPs. Now, it’s telephone usage. Really, if it shocked me I dread to think what other internet users at home think.
Re. ArmeniaNow.com and Hetq Online, incidentally, my point was not so much whether it’s good enough (after all, I work for one of them and have a vested interest in wider dissemination) but rather, they mainly publish feature or investigative article stuff rather than solid news which I think we don’t have so much of.
That’s why I value armenialiberty.org although I do make a point of checking virtually every news source on a daily basis including arminfo. My only wish would be that some of Noyan Tapan’s stuff could be freely available. If it was, I think they’d have the most comprehensive news service online.
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/22/2005 @ 7:19 am
I think Katy is right about the web traffic. All depends on how is the originating web site conected. For example www.panarmenian.net never makes to google because it’s on very slow line and google “roobots” give time out. So what to do? I think the best solution would be to have mirrors outside. The cost of web hosting is not that big nowdays.
There is also a specific problem regarding to standarts and “meta” marks. This marks are usually absent on most of armenian news web site. For your information meta marks in general are searched by google first then the content.
Comment by Tigran Khanzadyan — 2/22/2005 @ 8:52 am
Last year I’ve sent an E-mail to google to submit yerkir.am; but I don’t think they submited it.
Weird, isnt it?
Comment by Հակոբ — 2/22/2005 @ 1:20 pm
Not particularly. Firstly, perhaps you sent the email to the wrong address and secondly, even if you didn’t, if someone submitted Yerkir.am to me I would reject it for one very obvious reason. It’s the official organ of a political party and therefore news would be seen to be partisan.
However, it’s a little ironic given that all the physical newspapers are partisan in some way or the other in Armenia. Yerkir is just being honst about it. Still, it would still be considered a publication of a political party and not a newspaper.
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/22/2005 @ 4:59 pm
So what are you saying? That Google is a front for a Masonic and Jewish attempt to destroy this tiny republic by the US State Department, Mossad, the Turks and Azeris? God, are we really so stupid as to be obsessed with conspiracy theories even when it comes to search engines?
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/22/2005 @ 5:04 pm
Nobody is talking about conspiracy theories here.
Yerkir, granted, is a party organ, but its online edition is a good (and updated) source of news. And its English is pretty good.
Btw, isn’t Yerkir Media TV, which you seem to like, also affiliated with the same party?
Good point on meta marks, thanks for clarification Tigran.
Comment by Hovakim — 2/22/2005 @ 10:36 pm
Hovakim, yes it is but I’m saying I like their news coverage on the basis of me being in Armenia and being otherwise starved of a near decent TV station. However, if I was employed as a news editor for Google or whoever else, I would consider that even if the news was great from such sources, the matter of party ownership would unfortunately contradict the requirement for news from independent sources.
As for conspiracy theories, maybe you’re not suggesting that but as usual, Hagop appears to be. Let’s face it, everything is the fault of “Armenized Jews” and anyway meant for external anti-Armenian propaganda purposes. Either that or for once, perhaps some real news is coming out of Armenia…
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/22/2005 @ 11:25 pm
“Armenized Jews” etc - either that’s an internal joke, or I miss the point.
I am going to disagree re party ownership, since I found Yerkir to be useful. There’s, unfortunately, no perfectly independent media outlet. Anywhere. By the same token, RFE/RL is owned and funded by U.S. Government - does it disqualify it from being a source of news? One has to use good judgement and not to buy into propaganda, whether partisan, or governmental, or foreign and hostile.
Besides, it’s obvious from the comments above that the choice of news sites in Google has more to do with technical characteristics of the websites (and their shrewd manipulation by search engine optimizing companies - a growing business)than editorial decisions.
Comment by Hovakim — 2/23/2005 @ 10:23 am
Dear Onnik,
Stop speculating. I believe I have sent the E-mail to the correct address that Google had provided.
Also, since you know that Yerkir is the official news paper of ARF, then you should have noted that AZG, which is the official newspaper of ADL and azg.am is active news engine in google/news.
I do not think there are ARMENIZED JEWS. I do think there are Armenian Speaking Jews. Also, please make this to yourself clear that I am not against Jews as nation and as religion. I disagree with Zionism, and unfortunately, many jews participate to Zionism.
Comment by Հակոբ — 2/23/2005 @ 11:42 am
I’d say that’s an understatement. MOST Jews participate in Zionism, i.e., establishment, support, and defense of the State of Israel. As well as they should.
I’d be happy if MOST Armenians participate in supporting and defending the Republic of Armenia. On the other hand, most claim to be. All we need is a ringing, towering term. How about Araratism?
As a reminder, this posting was about Google news, not different monotheistic faiths. I am going to exercise a wonderful option I have discovered today, DELETE COMMENT, to censor any further comments on non-News or Google subjects. I am sure there’s another posting, another website crying for comments like that.
Re: Azg, good point. Plenty of Ramkavar propaganda there. Good news source though.
Comment by Hovakim — 2/23/2005 @ 1:54 pm
Hagop and Hovakim, like the people at Google know about the history of the Armenian media. Instead, I would suspect that they look at any “about us” page of any news source of which Azg appears to have none while Yerkir has this:
http://www.yerkir.am/eng/index.php?sub=about_arm
As I said before, and as someone who worked for over two years for an ARF-D paper, what makes the Dashnaks different (and this is actually commendable) is that unlike every other paper linked to a political party or business interest, they’re open about it.
For Google, however, all they can see is that one Armenian newspaper talks of how it is the official organ of a political party and how it was banned in recent years in Armenia.
Still, you can try. Just don’t scream foul if it isn’t accepted. Anyway, that’s it for me as I’ve somewhat ironically got to go into Yerkir TV.
Cheers,
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/23/2005 @ 3:32 pm
Hovakim,
I do not know whether or not you know Armenian language, but my name in Grabar-Armenian sounds Hagop. I do write my name in Armenian script, which is why Onnik find’s it difficult to write my name correctly
My previous post was addressed to Onnik in reply to:
/As for conspiracy theories, maybe you’re not suggesting that but as usual, Hagop appears to be. Let’s face it, everything is the fault of “Armenized Jews” and anyway meant for external anti-Armenian propaganda purposes./
I guess your last comment was addressed to me, because Onnik, unlike me, is an editor of bloger.com just like you are. Therefore, you and he can delete any posts.
Comment by Հակոբ — 2/23/2005 @ 3:54 pm
Point taken re deletion.
Հակոբ, you probably mean the modern Western Armenian pronunciation, because it sounded Yakob in Grabar (Յակոբ). As it did in its original Arameic/Hebrew
Comment by Hovakim — 2/23/2005 @ 11:21 pm
Hagop or Hakob, I really don’t care to be honest.
As for Armenized jews I remember someone talking about them in the comments section of this site and forgive me if I was wrong, I thought it was you. I’ll look when I have time to check. Regardless, you seem to buy into this Armenian Aryan stuff but it’s an irrelevance really.
As for Yerkir, credit where credit is due, I was in at Yerkir Media TV today and had a lot of fun. I overdubbed Edik’s and Yerkir’s homeless film into English because it’s going to be shown in Washington DC in the coming week. Was nice to see how helpful Gegham Manoukian and the rest of the guys at Yerkir are at short notice. Had lunch with Gegham and spoke a little about his plans for the station (have known him on and off since 1998) and also his news editor and anchorwoman who used to work for Noyan Tapan.
Some other interesting news related to the homeless. Not only are we now seeing the government address the issue (thankfully, they don’t follow the same logic as Hagop (Hakob or whatever) but the Armenian Relief Society has also started assisting.
Anyway, if any of you are in Washington and get the chance to see the homeless film, Nameless Graves, please do. In a week or so, the english version will also be available from the Hetq Office.
Cheers,
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/24/2005 @ 1:02 am
BTW: I can read Armenian quite well, thank you. Now, the question is, will you graduate high school or not because you obviously have the psychological characteristics of a 10 year old fretting over the onset of puberty.
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/24/2005 @ 1:12 am
It’s interesting to follow the conversation here. The reason that we always left behind is exactly the similiar kind of “conversations”. Just to remind you that this was all about Google and News from Armenia.
To come back to the subject I decided to share with you my experience with the Google editioral staff. Long ago I was trying to submit a page for their listing. The editor contacted me and informed that he can not list the site since:
1) It’s on very slow connection and can not be loaded in sufficient time.
2) The page has many “dead links” … and page contains almost no information on the main subject. And the main subject was science.
So as you can see, I’ve got an answer from Google with prety correct points.
So first of all the web developers in Armenian need to put an effort to make things right.
Cheers,
Comment by Tigran Khanzadyan — 2/24/2005 @ 4:39 am
Tigran, although I’m partly to blame and certainly involved in the conversation you refer to, you’re are correct. Sometimes I tend to think that we don’t need “external powers” to try to destroy Armenia, we do a pretty good job of it ourselves.
Cheers,
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/24/2005 @ 6:13 am
Dear Tigran,
I do agree with you. Armenian News sites don’t even have a RSS feed. So I was trying to create a RSS engine that would create RSS feeds from Armenian News sites. However, it is very difficult, because for example, in yerkir.am HTML code is very tricky. Try to use regexps and you will get bunch of needless stuff. (http://www.blogrel.com/about.html)
Onnik,
When you become a member of a family (In this case blogrel.com) you follow to the rules of that family. I guess you did not read this rule:
Commenting
This site is not a discussion forum in that you cannot start discussions, but you can make a comment on something I have posted. There is a link at the bottom of each post for this purpose. Please note that all posts should not be off-topic, i.e. they should be strictly related to the post above, and should contain no profanities (rude words), derogatory statements, racist comments, bigotry, you know the drill.
Pursuant to the foregoin rule I refuse to reply to your sarcastic comments that were addressed to me.
Comment by Հակոբ — 2/24/2005 @ 11:02 am
Tigran and Hagop: thanks for the technical explanations.
Since there’s no authority to enforce the above suggestions, let’s hope the Armenian webmasters will slowly make the right changes. I will raise the matter with my friends in that community, as well as in the news business.
Comment by Hovakim — 2/24/2005 @ 11:58 am
Hagop, I didn’t know the rules about discussions actually, and on that basis I think that Blogrel misses the opportunity to initiate something that we sorely need for Armenia and Armenian-related issues.
However, it’s a bit rich for you to raise the rules when, in my opinion, you have engaged in derogatory statements, racist comments and bigotry and when you use the comments section to attack anything remotely realistic that doesn’t fit in with your personal view from thousands of miles away about Armenia.
Tell you what, let’s do a deal. You cease from attacking myself and others including Matt, myself and Katy who you’ve accused of having some foreign agenda and Matt and Katy being foreigners and implying they have no right to blog about Armenia and I’ll cease from responding.
However, when I get the time I will try and find that comment about Armenized Jews and apologize if it wasn’t your comment but expect a suitable response from you if it was.
Ironically, Matt asked me to start blogging on Blogrel months ago and I rejected the invitation because of time. Transition Online also asked me to start a blog for them from Armenia but I rejected that invitation for the same reason. What prompted me to do so now was the ability to engage mainly the Diaspora in discussion as most have no real comprehension of the situation in Armenia and little access to information on some very pressing issues that need addressing.
It’s unfortunate that Matt doesn’t want to have discussions on his site as I consider this to be one of the main benefits of such blogs. We rarely allow discussion and because of this, it’s important that there’s a medium to pursue this in a better format than a discussion board.
Cheers,
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/24/2005 @ 4:30 pm
No - I do want to have discussions. By saying that readers couldn’t initiate discussions I am just defining the format of a blog. That is, it is not a bulletin board where anyone can start a topic. Topics (posts) are created by the bloggers, while anyone is free to comment on these posts.
The only restrictions on Blogrel are that one should try to stay on the topic of the ‘conversation’ and one should not attack others. This last rule is important. Points of views are fine, and we can argue the point passonately, but please remember that we are all here because we care about Armenia, there are NO hidden agendas.
Matt
Comment by Matt — 2/24/2005 @ 6:11 pm
Onnik,
Perhaps you are talking about this: http://www.blogrel.com/archives/000412.html ?
I have never /attacked/ Matt or Katy. I have told Matt to use positive pictures or the header of blogrel.com. Because if I was a foreign viewer I would think Armenia is like Iraq or something? And NO, if you Onnik, think Armenia is like Iraq, or not even close to Tbilisi, then please keep your thoughts to yourself. I think there are MANY positive events in Armenia and you should be a positive photojournalist and record those events. =]
As for apology, I already forgive you.
Comment by Հակոբ — 2/25/2005 @ 12:50 am
Hagop,
Please. Iraq? What on earth are you saying? SInce when did anyone start comparing Armenia with Iraq? And as I recall you did cast doubts on our intentions for this log and even accused Matt of using a photograph of two policemen relaxing on Lake Sevan, accusing him of trying to make Armenia look sinister.
Tbilisi? No, Yerevan is not like Tbilisi. The food is much better there and the city more interesting in terms of architecture, in my opinion. Also, while they have a worse electricity supply they also have a shelter for the homeless, two McDonalds and there is less environmental damage (the city, is greener), the two cities are of course very different.
Personally, I prefer Tbilisi over Yerevan in terms of visiting although I probably wouldn’t want to live there even though they have draft Guiness in much more atmospheric bars and Yerevan has it canned and bottled and gathering dust in every shop and bar that tries to sell it.
Yes, the cities are very different in terms of Yerevan being a new city in comparison and there being a different in layout. It’s easier to find your way in the center of Yerevan than in Tbilisi and of course, the river is a nice touch. Probably, you’ve never been to Tbilisi, right?
A pity because I recommend it.
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/25/2005 @ 4:14 am
Okay, just saw the link and yes, you’re right, that was it and I was wrong. For that, I will apologize. So, sorry.
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/25/2005 @ 5:08 am
Tbilisi. Give me a break. Architecture is nice (typical provincial imitation of Paris, built by Armenian bourgeois in the 19th century and Georgian bolsheviks in the 20th century). But food is much better??? You’d need to find an open restaurant first. They can’t make khorovatz, the bean paste and salads are atrocious, and you need to travel out of town to taste real good khinkalis. Mind you, it’s really difficult to get anything else in a restaurant. McDonalds is a great site, though, with nice mercedeses and BMW’s lined up in the parking lot.
The only other things that make Tbilisi different from Yerevan are: the Metro stinks of sulphur (when it works); people actually go to church regularly; and the river is really nice.
But: if you want good Georgian food, stay in Yerevan.
Comment by Hovakim — 2/25/2005 @ 1:06 pm
I see you guys would like a discussion board.
May I make a suggestion on that? I do have a forum (phpBB2) and it supports Armenian and English language interfaces. I can make a hidden group, let’s say called ‘Blogrel’ and you can be a member of that group throu submitting a request to blogrel-group@[myforum] and get access.
Matt et al let me know if you are interested.
Comment by Հակոբ — 2/25/2005 @ 5:32 pm
I’m happy with the format of Blogrel just fine. As I said, I don’t mind discussions. This is what we have had on Blogrel for the past 9 months and I think they work fine in the context of the posts.
But if you want to make a discussion board and invte people there from here then that’s fine.
Matt
Comment by Matt — 2/25/2005 @ 8:53 pm
Hovakim,
When were you last in Tbilisi. I went first in 2000 and the last time was in the spring of 2003. On the last visit the place was full of restaurants that were full and the food was 100 times better than anything I’ve eaten in Yerevan. Sorry about that but I also had the same conversation with a local Armenian yesterday who was in Tbilisi a week ago or so and she said the same thing. The food was fantastic compared to Yerevan.
My wife was in Borjomi or somewhere in the summer rof last year and she had a generally positive view of Georgia. Greener, more scenic etc compared to Armenia. In fact, after initially feeling the same as most Armenians about Georgia (ie. most Armenians say they get on better with Azeris than Georgians) she came back with a changed opinion. However, she also pointed out that there was growing discontent with Saakashvili among the young people that she met.
Maybe our tastebuds are different although I don’t doubt that the Khringali is better outsde of Tbilisi. Anyway, in Spring 2003 what you say about the restaurants wasn’t the case. There were dozens and dozens and all of them were full just as was true with the bars. Cant’ remember ever seeing a Mercedes outside McD’s in Tbilisi. Only families treating their kids.
As for a comparison between Tbilisi and Yerevan, coming from Europe, Tbilisi was nicer for me and certainly greener. Never travelled on the metro but don’t doubt what you say. The electricity issue I also don’t dispute and in fact raised that point.
However, the guesthouses I saw were very nice, european with a georgian twist and much better than any of the tourist options we have in Yerevan. Of course, I didn’t stay in the Sheraton or any of the Marriot Hotels they have in Tbilisi but don’t doubt that they are as ridiculously priced as hotels in Yerevan although they are prettier.
http://www.georgica.caucasus.net/hotels.htm
Incidentally, there’s a new development project underway in Tbilisi that looked to be on the same scale as Northern Avenue in Yerevan. Can’t find the link at the moment, however. Of course, Baku experienced that before Yerevan and Tbilisi and upset a lot of people by destroying some of the old parts of the city. To be honest, may of the trends in one capital are evident in the others. The only difference is the time.
Anyway, Tbilisi is gorgeous in my opinion whoever built it. I like the multi-cultural aspect of the city even though it has created conflict within society and territorial problems and I especially liked the restaurants and bars which were more appealing and atmospheric. Tbilisi was after all going to become a UNESCO World Heritage until Shevardnadze failed to put a stop to some of the new construction in the city.
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/25/2005 @ 9:37 pm
Your opinion, just like mine, is subjective. So, I am not going to argue further. My impressions are from July 2004.
Comment by Hovakim — 2/25/2005 @ 11:25 pm
Seeing the number of restaurants that were there, especially by the river, and the fact that they were full and having that backed up yesterday by one local and never hearing ANY local Armenian dispute that the Georgians value their cuisine more than Armenians is hardly what I’d call “subjective.”
Having eaten at some of them and enjoyed the food more than what is available in Yerevan is pretty much stating a fact.
On a related note, however, at least we can now buy fresh khachapuri in Yerevan. Until about a year and a half ago it was disgusting stuff. Now, the fresh khachapuri bakeries in Yerevan are quite delicious thank god. However, the restaurants can’t serve as good a spread as those that I ate at in Tbilisi.
A friend of mine from Boston along with his local girlfriend will be soon going to Tbilisi. I’ll ask their impressions when they return although I know hers already as she was there a week ago, as I said, and was raving about the food compared to Yerevan. That was pretty much my impression from three visits to Georgia during the period up to spring 2003.
The bars were certainly nicer and not just because they had Guiness on draft. They were just generally nice and seemed less mafia-controlled than here although ironically, they probably were owned by officials.
BTW: I’m interested. Why were you in Tbilisi? Generally most Armenians don’t bother to visit Georgia at all when they visit Yerevan unless of course, they live in Armenia and have business up north.
Incidentally, when it comes to Armenia and Georgia I think all Armenians are pretty much subjective and that’s one of our problems. Probably, the Georgians are the same towards Armenia. It’s a pity.
Comment by Onnik Krikorian — 2/26/2005 @ 12:13 am
Hello, Blogrel!
Firstly, I would like to notice that Google News does not crawl and index RSS Feeds.
Secondly, We provide export from our newsfeed, so do not hesitate to visit
http://www.panarmenian.net/stickers/eng/
and find there the suitable format for your site. We are open to cooperate, so would like to listen some comments, and suggestions.
Best regards
Comment by Ruben Muradyan — 2/26/2005 @ 11:07 pm
Just a test
Comment by Ruben Muradyan — 2/26/2005 @ 11:23 pm
Dear Ruben,
I have tried to use panarmenian.net’s RSS feed (About 1 year ago) but it failed. I guess the connection to panarmenian.net was very weak or there was a problem with the RSS.
Comment by Հակոբ Գեւորգյան — 2/27/2005 @ 1:52 am
Ruben:
Panarmenian.net is a good source of news, but you should consider having a mirror site to help those accessing your site outside of Armenia. The site is frequently down or it takes minutes to load. The small cost of a mirror site will be more than covered by much greater readership.
Comment by Hovakim — 2/27/2005 @ 6:08 am
Thank you for comments, Gentlemen.
We are hungry for comments, and higly appreciate them, so do not hesitate to contact me personally, or give some comments here.
Right now we are moving abroad.
Actually we used to work with our own server, not the one at hoster’s location.
But it gives a lot of troubles in terms of connectivity, and accessibility. Moreover - we are not creating a mirror, we are completely moving. I hope on next weekend, I will announce new, better connection to PanARMENIAN.net
RE: RSS (Hakob Gevorgyan)
Can you give your program name, or just describe me the way, you are connecting to RSS?
I will try to make it better.
Comment by Ruben Muradyan — 2/28/2005 @ 5:04 pm
Google is interested in leftist type “news”. So if you don’t have something with a anti-society twist, it may be very difficult to get them to add your service. Little Green Footballs is always butting heads with them on this issue.
Comment by daniel — 3/1/2005 @ 10:58 pm
Dear Gentlemen,
As I promised a week before, we have moved www.panarmenian.net to a new hosting location.
Right now DNS information is propagated, and perhaps for a day ot two you will see our old site. But the job is done, and we are fast enough (I hope) now.
Comment by Ruben Muradyan — 3/5/2005 @ 6:37 pm
Is Google negative about all Armenian names?
Is google run by Turkish employees?
www.artrenewal.com is the only place where more information is available on Aivazovsky (Hovhannes Ayvazian)
__________________________________________________
Very interesting. I regret that I surely have less knowledge than you have already accumulated about
Aivazovsky. I remember when I was younger and visiting the palace museum in Istanbul how impressed
I was with the large Aivazovsky paintings there and also the adamant rejection of the guide that he was
Armenian–insisting that he was pure Russian.
best wishes,
Richard Hovannisian
hovannis@history.ucla.edu
At 06:00 PM 8/1/2005, you wrote:
Dear Professor Hovannisian
I am taking the liberty of contacting you because your knowledge of Armenian history is tremendous asset to all Armenians.
I have been told to find out my ancestry, lineage which seems to indicate that I am related to 19 century painter Aivazovsky.
http://www.artrenewal.com/asp/database/art.asp?aid=212
I know this because of what my grandmother told my mother before she passed away.
My Grandfather died before I was born due to riding accident at any rate he had met my grandmother in Tbilisi Georgia and had decided to travel to far remote regions of Iran somewhere bordering Iran and Iraq to heal the locals I still do not fully comprehend his motive.
My grandfather’s name was Abraham Ayvazian and he had told my grand mother of his great heritage but nothing remains of his history.
My late wife of Danish origin recently passed away due to ovarian cancer insisted that it was odd for me to be so in love with the sea since Armenia does not have any ports leading to the sea and there is no shipbuilding or anything else pertaining to shipyards that I can find. So after talking to few relatives I am now even more curious about finding out about the legacy of Aivazovsky.
Would you perhaps have any tools that would allow you to do in-depth cross reference check of this Armenian Painter.
Thank you in Advance
George Galustian
Gevork Galustian
Comment by George Galustian — 8/5/2005 @ 9:13 pm